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Old 08-17-2008, 02:25 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Second Thoughts: Watch What They Do, Not What They Say

I loved this statement by Prok:

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I have been following this for a long time, and there's no question that Adam and other developers simply have no intention of attempting to mechanically engineer permissions implementations, or using c/m/t in any form, full stop. They duck and cover from this obvious copyleftist position by saying they will allow others to put it in if they wish, but that's proved to be a sham.
From Adam's blog:

  1. Hi Adam,
    I’m wondering if you might speak about this mantis issue a bit from your point of view as it I think pertains to this issue in some ways.
    0001784: Permissions Issue- Owner of land can take a copy of anything on their land which makes it full perms for them. - Mantis
    Thank-you.
    Terry Ford - aka Butch Arnold
    http://www.3rdrockgrid.com
    By Terry Ford on Aug 16, 2008
  2. Hi Terry,
    That’s getting into a more complicated situation, probably a slight redesign is going to be needed there.
    As far as I can tell there’s two issues at hand:
    - 1. The permissions manager does not differentiate between say, being able to move/return/delete/reposition/mod objects, and being able to swipe them back to inventory - that definetely needs some fine tuning. (It also sounds like the inventory take code is not copying inworld permission bits properly, that’s definetely a bug.)
    - 2. Region owners/operators are equivilent to your standard webhost, when you upload content onto a webserver (say like the one I put this site on), then the people with access to that server are going to be able to tweak it.
    Estate/region owners have had powers over their regions for the same reason that webhosts do, but in some situations there will be cases where that’s not desired functionality - in that case, being able to disable the overrides via an option is probably a good feature to have.
    I’ll go have a chat about it with the other devs and see if we can get those overrides set to a config option. (Although getting more detailed configurable ACL’s for the permissions manager is on the agenda at the moment, I think Melanie herself is working on that.)
    By Adam Frisby on Aug 16, 2008
  3. Thank-you for your time Adam your thoughts concerning this is very much appreciated.
    By Terry Ford on Aug 16, 2008
  4. Just an update: Melanie got those options in on #5892. See OpenSim.ini.example for usage.
    By Adam Frisby on Aug 17, 2008
So, they added the fix in and are supporting it as an option... full stop.
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