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Old 08-07-2008, 02:57 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Surreal Farber View Post
Daman,

Those are indeed some definitions, however, they encompass the definition I gave. When we talk about the barbarians at the gates of civilization, we're talking about the people who wish to benefit from the positives of a society, but not contribute. Who feel themselves to be "other" and therefore not responsible for the collective good.
So if I understand what you're saying, anyone who isn't socialist is a barbarian?

Except that barbarian implies uncivilised, uneducated, etc.

And then there's the whole not contribute. I consider someone who works hard and provides for their family as the ultimate contribution to society, thank you. To say a hard-working head of family is non-contributing is IMO a grave insult.

If everyone were to work hard and provide for their family, society wouldn't have the problems it faces right now.
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