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Old 08-07-2008, 02:53 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Those are indeed some definitions, however, they encompass the definition I gave. When we talk about the barbarians at the gates of civilization, we're talking about the people who wish to benefit from the positives of a society, but not contribute. Who feel themselves to be "other" and therefore not responsible for the collective good.
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