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Originally Posted by eighthdwarf Checchinato  Why would you even assume this? |
Because I'm a rational human being with prior experience in such matters to draw upon. Most people would come to the same conclusions.
Whether or not YOU would is immaterial and entirely irrelevant. LL wants new users, and they want new users to stay, making everything including your name overly complicated and unintuitive is not the way to do that.
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Wrong.
If you don't want to be refered to by your username because it's embarrassing you, then you shouldn't have chosen such an embarrassing name to begin with.
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You're not a people person and should never be in a customer facing position. We've established that. It doesn't make what I said incorrect.
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Not everyone has their viewer set up to show display names. So deal with it, Mr joecock987654321 or Ms 0800f**ktoy - it's simply the consequence for your former lack of brain usage, back then when you came up with a name for your avatar.
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My previous point stands. You are not approaching this from the perspective of getting people to stay in SL. Also, you're missing the point. I don't care what each and every individual chooses to show in nametages in their client. I'm only concerned about the default settings and given reasons why.
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Yes, a typo. I'll have words with my editor.
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Isn't it up to every user, how they wish the names to be displayed on their screen? Some have set their viewer to username only, some to display name only, some to both names.
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See my previous point about not caring what individuals choose to show, just the defaults for reasons given.
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Actually, i've set my viewers to "show display name only" - and I've never seen usernames next to display names in IM windows since then.
The only times when i've seen usernames ("Legacy names") was 1) when people don't have a display name yet, 2) in pre-".resident" scripts that use legacy name only, and 3) in the IM tab itself, in pop-up messages, financial transactions and item offers.
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You're not using the official viewer. I know some TPVs remove it (a decision I disagree with) but in the official viewer it's there.
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Where are legacy names (or, usernames) obnoxious and confusing?
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Poor wording on my part, usernames aren't obnoxious and confusing, showing two names in the nametags by default is.
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The only obnoxious and confusing names in n ame tags are those illegible names in unicode crap fonts.If you don't want to see usernames in name tags, switch them off in Preferences -> General. Easy as that. Just because some people are too frigging stupid to differ group titles from display names, and too stupid to click on the "Groups" button, select a group, and click on "Activate" - you want to get rid of usernames altogether?
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If you want to argue with me, at least argue with things I said not things you imagined I said.
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The better solution would be: TUTOR the noobs that they know how to activate and deactivate a group, and what can be set in the Preferences.
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Actual live tutors doesn't scale, it's no feasible, and even with automatic instructions on preferences, most people never change from the defaults. Actually, I do believe there are better solutions to what I'm suggesting, but they involve a different name system altogether.
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Oooh, right, you would have to have actual TUTORIALS in the Welcome Areas to make sure of that!
And there is also the option to select them off.
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No disagreement from me here.
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Originally Posted by eighthdwarf Checchinato I also know plenty of them - that doen't mean though that legacy names are obsolete. |
My point was that neither of our anecdotal evidence meant anything. Neither does yours!
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It's still easy, with a bit of creativity.
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The problem isn't so much creativity as freedom. I don't simply want a name that sounds like a name, I want a name that I relate to.
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Why not? It was easy, and intuitive.
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It had its problems. It put off a lot of people and even among those who stayed in SL people wanted an alternative. And there are better alternatives, LL just chose one of the worst ways they could possibly approach the problem.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the username/display name set up is flawless, but Rodvik has looked at alternatives and decided, for better or worse, that nothing could be done that would satisfy enough people to make investing in a new system justifiable. So given that the current system is what we have, there are better ways to present it to new users.
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Yes, there are:
- Disable the usage of digits (as in numbers) for names entirely,
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Ever notice in these threads how the people who, incorrectly, accuse me of wanting to take away people's options and freedoms are, in fact, the only people advocating doing exactly that?
I can see some wisdom in restricting numbers from names, but what if I want to create a robot avatar with a name similar to R2-D2 or Tetsujin 28?
That is not another way. That is, in fact, the same exact way I was responding to in saying there were other alternatives.
Here's one, at the name selection screen have both usernames and display names chosen. Above the username line explain that it is your login, but also the unchangeable name everyone else can see and confirm your identity by.
Above display names say, "This is your avatar's name, what you want people to call you by. Display names do not need to be unique so choose a name that suits your persona!"